I used to think my interest in spirituality made me ‘deeper’ than people who talked about sports or trucks, but I was wrong. This mindset was a spiritual trap of chasing ‘depth’, and it was robbing me of genuine human connection. We often see surface-level conversations as boring, something to get out of the way to reach something more profound. But what happens when you keep chasing ‘deeper’ and ‘deeper’?
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The Illusion of ‘Deeper’ vs. ‘Surface-Level’
You keep chasing the deeper, and then everything that isn’t at the greatest level of depth starts to feel shallow. Suddenly, you find yourself at the deepest end of the spectrum, and a surprising thought emerges, “Gosh darn, I just miss having a boring conversation about nothing.” You wish you could just enjoy talking about something silly and meaningless for its own sake.
Then comes the realization. It’s all meaningless, a grand cosmic joke. The only meaning or value any conversation or experience holds is the meaning we ascribe to it. So, if two people want to sit around and talk about something we might deem spiritually insignificant, but they are enjoying it, that is the most valuable thing there is.
Why We Judge Interests Like Sports or Trucks
When my spiritual awakening began, I reflected on my upbringing in a small Midwestern town. The most exciting topic of conversation was often about which guy drove his big, lifted truck through the deepest mud hole over the weekend. To my newly ‘awakened’ mind, this seemed spiritually meaningless and very surface-level.
At my old job, that was all the guys could talk about. Their conversations revolved around the “Mud drive,” what movie was coming out on Netflix, or sports. I could never get into sports. But here’s an interesting question, what if they genuinely love that experience? They love the thrill of driving their truck through a mud hole with their buddies. They love the excitement of the characters in a Netflix series. For them, that is a source of joy.
Depth versus surface level is simply something that we assign a label to based on how we value it.
The Objective Weirdness of All Hobbies
Ultimately, the highest level of spiritual enlightenment is about enjoying life and being who you choose to be. Some people choose to enjoy Netflix, others sports, and some, like me, enjoy spirituality. But it’s all equally deep and equally valuable. When we can see it this way, we stop creating separation.
Let’s zoom out for a moment. Everything that any individual chooses to hyper-focus on is, from a certain perspective, objectively weird.
- One person is super into building businesses. Weird.
- Another is fixated on watching people throw a ball around. Weird.
- Someone else is obsessed with stories and characters in the latest show. Very weird.
- And yes, another is excited to drive their truck with big tires through a mud hole. Also weird.
All of these people found joy in different places because something in their life, something in their conditioning, made that activity valuable to them. Maybe they love movies because it’s their only good childhood memory. Perhaps they enjoy driving trucks through mud because that’s what they did with their dad.
Recognizing The Spiritual Trap of Chasing ‘Depth’
All human connections form around a shared interest or a shared love. When I find myself in conversations that feel “surface-level” and un-nourishing, I used to disengage. But the only person I was disserving was myself. I was preventing myself from connecting with another real human being.
By labeling things… this is deep, this is not; this is meaningful, this is meaningless… we create separation where Source does not. The universal consciousness says if you want to play the game of life by driving trucks through mud holes, go have fun. If you want to explore the realms of consciousness, how the inner mind works, and how to untangle trauma and belief systems, great, go have fun. Learning to master your own energy through practices like understanding the 13 Chakra system can be a powerful path, and you can check the schedule on the registration page for our next event if that interests you.
Source says we can do everything. When we judge one thing as higher or lower, we’re not talking about depth, we’re talking about preference. My preference is this, their preference is that. What if I genuinely took an interest in their preference, without judgment?
Everywhere is Sacred, Even Costco
This reminds me of a video I saw by a shaman on TikTok. He’s usually in his studio or at a sacred site, but in this video, he was walking around a Costco. He said if you think standing in Costco is a less sacred place than a giant temple, you’re not allowing yourself to connect to Source. You don’t understand what “sacred” truly is.
Sacred is present, sacred is everywhere. We are the sacred, and every place is as sacred as we choose to allow it to be.
He urged people to start treating their shopping trips as visits to a sacred place and every interaction as a sacred connection. You might be surprised by the depth of a conversation with a random cashier. Yet, so many spiritual people hate going to the mall or the market, viewing it as a “3D thing” that’s beneath them because it’s tied to consumerism. But we all have to eat.
Getting our food from a big concrete box instead of a field might be objectively weird, but it’s all part of creation. It only becomes a disconnected, unfulfilling experience when we label it as “less than.” By doing so, we rob ourselves of the depth that could exist in every moment.
How to Find Depth in Every Moment
The point is to walk in depth, always. To see everything as carrying inherent depth. When we meet people, even in a “surface-level” situation we don’t prefer, we can be present with them. We can connect with them through the thing they love with the same presence we would bring to our own passions.
When we see this as a preference of interest versus a level of depth, all conversations suddenly become a container for depth. When we can see every place and every activity as equally spiritual, we begin to see the magic. We begin to feel the spirit with us and through us. We begin to feel alive, whether we’re grocery shopping or meditating in a temple. It’s all the same.
